A while back, the Rhino Times suggested in print that it was inadvisable for Donald Trump to continue using highly abusive language to refer to Kamala Harris, Chris Christie and many others – and, instead, advised that, during the campaign, Trump would have a better chance of winning by sticking to talking about the economy and other policy issues, rather than going on wild tangents and using abrasive language against everyone who disagrees with him.
After that, a few – but certainly not most – Rhino Times readers took offense and began referring to the “Woke Rhino,” or the “New Liberal Rhino,” which was humorous to me because one can still believe that a president should be, well, presidential, and also believe that biological men playing in women’s sports is a crazy idea, that having taxpayer money pay for prison sex change operations is completely nuts, and that letting millions upon millions of unknown illegal immigrants stroll across the border is a danger to citizens and a major national security threat.
The same person can believe it’s a massively terrible idea to allow young kids to have their bodies permanently altered because at that time they are still forming who they are as a person. Kids have no idea what they will want to be when they are 20. (As a former Republican Guilford County commissioner told me, “When you’re a kid you say all sorts of things: ‘I want to be an astronaut; I want to be a fireman’ – but, when you’re a kid, you have no idea what you really want to be.”)
So, like I said, you can believe all that and still believe that the president of the United States should not be harsh and divisive and talk freely about retribution and going after his enemies.
And here’s the other thing: One can be conservative to the core – and even MAGA to the core – and still acknowledge that it just might be possible that former and soon-to-be future president Donald Trump could make a mistake from time to time.
However, for some Trump supporters and some Rhino readers, even the mere suggestion that Trump could possibly make a mistake is absolutely pure heresy; and, for them, anyone who would dare suggest Trump might make a mistake is an ultra-left-wing nut who wants to ban all guns and give free sex change operations to incarcerated illegal immigrants at taxpayer expense.
So, when I suggested during the campaign that Trump would do himself, conservatives, and, really, the entire country a favor by not calling Kamala Harris “retarded,” I angered some readers and got some pushback and even a few readers who instantly jumped to the conclusion that the Rhino Times was now “woke.”
Apparently, for some, a conservative newspaper should never suggest that Trump could ever do anything wrong.
I always smile when someone accuses me of being a far-left wing-liberal. That’s because, to me, almost every reader of the Rhino Times is waaaaay too far left on the political spectrum.
Many people don’t know this about me but, in 1996, I was the Libertarian candidate for governor of the State of North Carolina. I ran against Robin Hayes and Jim Hunt. As a Libertarian, I see most Republicans as way too far to the left and as people who want government much too involved in everyone’s lives. As a Libertarian, I look at Republican policies and I’m constantly astonished at all this huge government they’re pushing for.
Just to take one of ten million examples that I could give, most conservative Republicans I know want to continue this senseless and ridiculous War on Drugs – even though it hasn’t worked, it’s cost billions and billions of dollars, it explodes jail and prison populations, it hurts minorities more than others – and, most importantly, it is just a perfect instance of big government depriving people of the right to do whatever they want with their own bodies.
It makes 1,000 times more sense to treat addiction as a medical problem than – as most conservative Republicans want – to arrest these people and throw them in jail, where I then have to pay for their existence with my hard-earned money.
To continue my point, cigarettes are still legal and available at just about any store, but smoking has gone down tremendously due to information campaigns and helpful anti-smoking programs – and that’s one of the most addictive substances there is. However, illicit drugs are illegal and they seem to be as popular and deadly as ever.
In North Carolina, the Republican-dominated legislature is still, even in 2024, telling people that they don’t even have a right to smoke marijuana in their own home. How in the world is that not big government intruding violently into our lives and our houses?
Where do these huge government Republicans get the right to tell me what I can do in the privacy of my own home?
Will the conservative majority in the North Carolina legislature let me gamble with my friends or open a casino in the state? No, they will not. Absolutely they will not. They will let the state government run a wide-scale highly promoted gambling/lottery operation – but can you and I, supposedly free Americans, do so?
No.
I could go on and on.
So, it’s funny to me, as a Libertarian who believes government should be drastically reduced, when “conservative Republicans” – who think government should be somewhat reduced – think that someone is “woke” because they believe things would be better all-around if people were civil to each other and if the president was presidential.
Take, for instance, the uproar regarding Trump’s cabinet picks, which have set many liberals’ hair on fire – and, frankly, have set a lot of Trump’s Republican supporters in the US Senate’s hair on fire as well.
Matt Gaetz for Attorney General is a good example. Trump said earlier this week that anyone who votes against Gaetz would be primaried and Elon Musk’s money would be funding their opponents. Trump finally was forced to pull the nomination but only because he couldn’t ram Gaetz through.
However, is it really such a grave sin for, as some Senate Republicans have suggested that, perhaps Gaetz might not have been the absolute best choice to head up the Justice Department of the United States of America?
Does that make someone “woke” and a left-wing nut if they think it’s at least possible that there might be someone else out there who better exemplifies the qualities of someone we want to have leading the Justice Department – even if Trump thinks otherwise?
I don’t care how much you love Trump or his policies – I am sorry to tell you, Gaetz was a terrible idea to head up the justice department, and the US Senate did a wise thing by not letting him do it.
Some say, yes, to even remotely question Trump is a cardinal and unforgivable sin.
But I am saying, no it’s not.
So, in the case of Matt Gaetz, I think Trump made a mistake.
There, I said it.
I also think that, somewhere deep inside you, you know that’s true as well.
Does that make me woke? No.
Does that mean that I want violent illegal aliens roaming freely across the country raping and killing Americans? No, it does not.
Does it mean that I think government should ban plastic straws or incandescent lightbulbs? Nope.
It just means that I believe that, like you, and like me – and like all human beings on the planet Earth – Trump can make a mistake from time to time.
Maga and conservatives are two different animals, maga worship of trump will be a blow that conservatives won’t be able to overcome.
D.T. is not a good person
Slo Joe was not a good person.
I am happy to read you are part of the MAGA movement. Our country is in the midst of an attack from without and within.
Like you, I am 100% behind our divine Bullet Dodger In Chief. Having said that, I do not agree with ALL of his policies. AND having said that, our enemy will use ANY minor disagreement against our leader. Their attacks are rarely straight on but are of the Golden Shower variety.
(President Trump, Mark Robinson, Matt Gaetz, Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh and Pete Hegseth. )
SO, please be careful when publicly expressing your disagreement.
Why be careful? I thought conservatives were all about free speech?
Trump has always been about canceling anyone that doesn’t 100% agree and support everything he says. That is where Liberals painted him as an authoritarian. I prefer label him a bully and other colorful names not allowed for print.
But you be you.
You know that Vance, who is Trump’s VP, was openly outspoken against Trump, right? Not only did Trump not cancel him, but now they are going to make America Great Again together. That’s the opposite of canceling, dum-dum.
There is a difference between freely expressing an opinion and outright lies, like Russia Gate, and the Kavanaugh accuser, and calling Trump a dictator in one breath and then shaking hands and smiling with him in the next (Joe Biden).
Lol Vance had to kiss the ring first. It was his strategy to avoid being canceled.
But you be you.
I see you’ve moved your goal posts again. Typical Chris move. I thought you just got canceled for disagreeing with Trump, but now Trump only cancels you if you don’t kiss his rings after not 100% agreeing? Got it. So dumb.
Um, sure. If Trump is as vindictive as you say, a simple kissing of the ring would not push Vance to the top of the VP list. Trump cannot be a vengeful canceller yet also be so forgiving that a former detractor now gets to be his VP. Your statements make no sense, Chris.
He was canceled until he kissed the ring. Why do you think he kissed the ring. Duh
Welcome to Chris’s world of circular logic everyone.
Welcome to the world of your head in the sand conservative. If they didn’t keep their head in the sand, Trump would cut it off. LOL
To claim Trump is not vindictive is just silly. He has spoken many times about military tribunals against his opponents (Cheney most recently). He has called his opponents, the enemy or evil within and expressed his desire to fight them with the military, he has stated openly he wants to court martial those in the military that have not expressed their support of his policies.
it is not a coincidence that many conservatives speak out against Trump and his approach to the office only after they themselves leave office for they know they will be canceled if they speak against him while in office. Vance was just playing the Trump game and kissed Trump’s ring in exchange for power…just as easy as it is to offend a narcissist, it is easy to get back on their good side with a simple kiss of the ring.
But you be you.
Or like election fraud being reason Trump lost in 2020. Or immigrants cause massive crime wave, or covid will be gone in a day or two. Or Cooper and Biden direction relief away from conservative districts in WNC. Or Mexico will pay for the wall. Or how Trump will cut mortgage rates and restore grocery bills to pre inflation levels. Those lies?
A little bit of civility goes a long way. It’s not really too much to ask for.
Trump is not perfect. Trump supporters privately expressed concern over his abusive language toward others. The consensus is that his supporters wish he would stick to voters’ concerns. However, Trump comes from the ruthless business world where playing nice is not a top priority; where success of his business translates to growth and employment for many thousands of ordinary people. It is a high stakes game. However, for Trump supporters, anxiety over Democrats’ affection for big government, contempt for the deplorables, and government corruption was more important than Trump’s abusive language.
As a fellow conservative Libertarian, I support the positions you espouse. I was on the LPNC Executive Committee and worked with Scott McLaughlin on his Gubernatorial campaign in 1992. And I respect your ability to think for yourself, Scott. So few do.
But I think one of the reasons Trump has succeeded is precisely because he is a loose cannon, a bomb thrower. People are sick of the vacuous nonsense spouted by politicians – and Kamala’s word salads were the apotheosis of this.
A lot of politicians claim to represent the common man but still dress, walk and talk like a politician. Trump talks like a regular guy (with a big mouth, but hey, he’s from New York). Therefore people can identify with him. He’s real.
We are not voting for a Pope. We are not choosing a school principal, or a new pastor for our church. Trump is no saint – and Putin and Xi know it. His “Bull in a China Shop” modus operandi serves our national interests very well.
Yeah, he’s a little rough around the edges.
So what?
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PS I just returned from the UK through Philadelphia airport, and touched their copy of the Liberty Bell! Scott McLaughlin thought it would be a good symbol for the Libertarian Party, and I agree.
Labels are sticky things, but one could say the writer is MAGA and be correct. At the same time, if President Trump does not follow through on his promises my loyalty will change. I don’t think people worship the Don or his agenda. We just want to see some salient things get done.
A very articulate response Scott. All I can add is that we should all agree that the recent election gives us hope for a better country.
God Bless you, and I wish everyone a few moments of peace at Thanksgiving where we can all count our blessings.
I love some of the comments. MAGA will be a blow to Conservatives and DT is not a good or perfect person. Do any o0f these folks say this from a position of knowledge? First, what has Occupy Democrats or BLM or Antifa done for the Democrats? For that matter, what has Progressivism? MAGA is simply defined as Making America Great Again. I never heard of making somethi8ng great again as being a negative—until now. It is common sense that you want to make something great again, unless you are a progressive liberal, of course. When I think of progressivism I think of government control, such as Mao Tse Tung of China or Kim Jong-Un of N. Korea or Idi Amin of Ethiopia or the Soviet Union which is Putin`s background. These were governments of despots and dictators who allowed no freedoms, no free speech r really free thought of their people. Why is that important here? Biden`s Administration had a Disinformation Board active in censoring, mainly Conservatives. Kamala`s campaign changed headlines in major newspapers and had edits of interviews made at major networks, even told interviewers what questions they could ask. Progressives controlled the media in their favor, while giving almost nothing to their opposition in the form of media. Kamala proposed taking the freedom of the filibuster away from Congress, stacking the Supreme Court to favor progressive rulings, and kept the borders wide open while giving Illegals the power to vote so as to ensure power in the future. She also, like Biden, made their foreign policy less aligned with our allies and more with our enemies. They encouraged antisemitism while becoming friendly with Hamas and other terrorist organizations. They weakened our military, sending arms and ammunition from stockpiles to non-allies in wars across the world. They wanted to take guns from citizens to weaken their ability to defend themselves. They used lawfare in an effort to destroy their opposition and attempt to change the Constitution. They celebrated atheism and denigrated Judaism and Christianity. Apply any of the above to those dictators or Hitler, Mussolini, Hirohito and you will find a stark parallel.
Do Democrats really want to become Progressives and turn the greatest nation in the world into the Soviet Union, or would they be more inclined to agree we need to return to the nation the Founders intended when they formed it? That is what the MAGA movement is all about, and apparently, the vast majority of Americans agree. So MAGA is the downfall of the Conservatives. Really? Was the Whig Party? The Bull Moose Party? The Tea Party? No. it is just another wrinkle of the Conservatives to take them in a new direction, The first ones to do this without calling it MAGA were HW Bush and Ronald Reagan. They called it the “shining light on the hill” but the basis for MAGA was there. It is the movement of common sense, of returning to what this Republic stands for, of being the Party/movement which brings all people together, no matter their religion, race, gender, or income. The Democrat Party purported to be this and lost its way/resolve. It also took people for granted.
The comment that DT isn`t perfect is humorous. he never claimed to be, but name one Democrat who hasn`t so claimed. However, his policies have been both productive and effective (2017-`20) and the best for American citizens since Ronald Reagan. It would take too long to show all he accomplished his first term despite the lawfare attempted against him. In a nutshell, he produced the best economy ever prior to Covid, energy independence, a trade surplus, Middle East peace, wiped out ISIS, kept the world in check with no new wars, and brought manufacturing back home while giving ALL citizens more money in their pockets through tax cuts in their paychecks with less Fed. Taxes taken out. He also attempted to make government smaller, and DOGE was created for that. This is the vision American citizens voted overwhelmingly they want.
Comparing progressives to Soviet Unit and China which are authoritarian countries is highly disingenuous and typical fear mongering from the right. No less disingenuous as calling Trump the next Hitler.
Progressives are just advocating for social and political reform, often with the goal of achieving greater equality and social justice (yet racism is still a factor in everyday life for minorities in the US even though great progress from past progressive movements have been successful). If caring about all American’s with the hope they can all receive equal opportunities is how you THINK the governments of China and Russia work, you are a true fool. Which is what Trump assumes you are as he pushed his fear mongering about the Left during the campaign.
Do all progressive policies, ideas, etc. work? Nope. But that is why we have elections. Too bad this time around the MAGA people believed the lies about the evils of Wokeness.
But you be you.
“You are a true fool”….interesting.
Not surprised that is all you have to contribute to the conversation. Ignorance is your bliss I guess.
But you be you.
….That is why we have elections…. Except that they didn’t go your way, so you say the results were a result of people choosing poorly? That is so hypoctitical. Chris might as well have said, “Elections are only good if they go the way I want them to.” Sounds a like what a dictator might say.
You also say that progressivism is “caring about all Americans”, but many of the progressive policies involve catering to illegals at the expense of Americans. Hypocritical yet again.
Greensboro has a great example of this hypocracy. We have a fully operational American Hebrew Academy facility, rented out with US tax payer dollars, that was going to house illegals while many US citizens are sleeping outdoors just a couple miles away. Now the academy remains empty, but still funded by our tax dollars as a “training facility” while American homeless get to huddle in the cold. Way to go Progressives. And you wonder why people voted against that nonsense? Get lost, dummy.
History points to us making mistakes in electing poor leaders to office before. Nixon, Charter, Buchanan, Bush Jr. We clearly don’t always get it right.
The idea that catering to one group hurts other is very narrow thinking. Which I fully understand you are good at based on your reply to my comment. The real hypocrisy is how commenter’s here always claim thst helping the homeless.only attracts more homeless. Also note that it was federal funds that leased the school (which has since been canceled) yet lack of local funds for housing the homeless as homelessness is a local issues versus immigration which is a federal issue. And through your ignorant statements, you call me a dummy. LMAO.
But you be you.
You fail to see the basic premise. Stop spending federal tax money on immigrant housing and spend it on American unsheltered, especially veterans. You also seem to think there is unlimited money, another “progressive” failing. Taxes are finite, so yes, catering to one group does hurt another. Every tax dollar spent on illegals is a dollar not spent on Americans. And federal money could and should be easily reallocated away from sheltering illegals to help US veterans. Just because it isn’t doesn’t mean it can’t be, but that’s hard for “progressives” to grasp, I guess. Not that hard for the rest of us, dum-dum.
Homelessness is a local issue and therefore funded by local tax dollars. Immigration is a national issue and therefore funded by federal tax dollars.
Another circular, non statement. If my finite tax dollars, whether federal, state, or local, are being spent to house someone, it should be for US citizens. Not illegals. Not that complicated.
Chris, progressives know exactly how China and Russia work, that’s why progressives believe that China and Russia are nirvanas. But China’s and Russia’s nirvana can only be achieved by eliminating our Bill of Rights. Our Bill of Rights (first 10 Amendments to the US Constitution) protects citizens from the very progressives that you espouse.
Now you are just making stuff up like Trump does. To be clear, no progressive points to China and Russia as great examples.of Governance. If you beleive that, I bet you thought Trump University was about education. LMAO.
But you be you.
What progressives do is nudge. Progressives are aware that it would be impossible to eliminate the Bill of Rights with one fell swoop. So, they nudge. They start small by reducing gun rights, trampling on free speech by changing words to fit their totalitarian vocabulary and working to make those words’ use mandatory, and trampling on states’ rights by enlarging the federal government. Chris, if you think you will be anything special in a progressive future, you will not and neither will I.
Has anyone come for your AR15? Nope. Has anyone come for your pistols? Nope. Sounds you are still just making stuff up. You seem to be sharing your thoughts here free and clear? NC just stripped the governors office of power and feds did nothing. So what are you talking about. What can you no longer do that you used to be able to do? What rights has NC lost?
Sounds like somebody is being overly dramatic like the good sheep his orange leader wants him to be.
But you be you.
Libertarian Party was founded by three women and true to their founding goals. “Give Me Liberty” by Rose Wilder Lane. Dam it! Keep an open mind!
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And Margaret Thatcher has been the best Prime Minister of my lifetime.
Golda Meir was as tough as nails too.
You go, girls!
All three women I admire greatly.
Right! Trump would done even better to hammer the issues. And he will do better to do the same when serving. Angering people will not help working with them if possible.
I have found I’m more of a Libertarian than a Republican. I left the GOP several years ago and wasn’t happy voting for Trump for many of the reasons you mentioned, Scott. I don’t intend to join a party again and will continue as “undecided” (although I’d prefer it was called “undeclared” because I am “decided”, and decided to NOT choose a party).
I was completely angered at times by Trump’s vocabulary because I honestly believe our President is not only the leader of our country but should set an example for the kids in our society as to how to conduct themselves. I don’t give a rat’s ass if that’s old-fashioned thinking, the President is the “father figure” of our country. Kids watch the example of our politicians. Seeing a candidate for President who in a speech says his opponent is a “sh1t VP”, for example, does not model integrity, decorum, responsibility, class, dignity, or any other mature behavior expected of an adult that we’d prefer kids become.
Lack of integrity has been the biggest issue since Clinton. It’s what caused my mother-in-law to vote for a Republican for the first time in her life shocking everyone in her family. I understood. If someone has no integrity they won’t be honest in any area of their life. That’s a morale we lack so much in our current culture. But it matters.
Freedom is a Libertarian idea. Less government, less regulation, fewer taxes, freedom of choice, Constitutional government.
Yes, liberty is the goal.
Democracy is just a mechanism.
I’m with you on this one.
“Woke” is a silly. meaningless word invented to belittle and marginalize people who aren’t in the cult of trump. So dumb.
“Woke” was not invented by the Trump cult but is an old progressive expression describing their “awareness” of social and political issues. The Trump cult simply exposed the true meaning of “woke.”