This is a letter to the editor from Rhino Times Reader Austin Morris
As the trial of Laken Riley’s killer is about to begin, WGHP Fox8 today expressed fears that the killer might not get a fair trial in Athens, Georgia, where Laken was killed.
That seemed to be their main concern.
They did not report that this case came into the spotlight as an example of the crime wave being committed by illegal immigrants. WGHP failed to mention that the accused murderer is an illegal immigrant from South America who already had an arrest warrant issued for unrelated crimes.
You don’t need to know any of that, according to WGHP. You just need to worry about whether dear Jose Antonio Ibarra, 26, will get a fair trial.
They’re not trying to inform you, they’re trying to manipulate you.
– Austin Morris
This is silly. They did not report on it. They ran a story from a Georgia outlet,
And the local newsreader (Cindy Farmer) made the additional commentary.
The Republicans want you to believe there is a crime wave led by illegal immigrants, yet they can only ever point to one or two stories over and over and over again to make their case. Why? Because there is no immigrant’s crime wave. Just a few cases they yell about over and over and over again. And when that doesn’t work, they make up lies about immigrants eating cats and dogs. If it was true, there would be far more cases to yell about with having the repeat the same ones over and over and over again.
But you be you.
The readers of this website aren’t stupid.
They can read the crime pages.
And they know that the media lie, but that they must tell the names of the criminals.
And their names ain’t Michael or Christopher. The criminals don’t have names like that.
Fact.
Yup, didn’t think you had anything other than a couple of stories to drama queen over to make up your lies about a crime wave.
Apparently Chris either lives in a bubble or is just another troll who always disagrees with actual facts. Nationwide there are numerous crimes committed daily by illegals, many which are violent. And guess what Chris ten million illegal acts is a crime wave because every single illegal broke the law by entering the country illegally. Get your facts straight.
Notice you have no source or data. Just more drama with no substance. Yawn. Actual studies say you are lying. But don’t let facts get in the way of your fear mongering by repeating your dear leader’s propaganda.
Chrissy places his faith in “experts”, “studies”. and “data” – all of which are easily manipulated so as to fool people like him. They cling to their “science”, because they can’t think for themselves. And so they defer to their hallowed “experts” just as they defer to the state.
All Leftists are what I call Acceptor/Obeyers. They accept situations, and they obey. Even when they believe they’re disruptors they’re actually just following the crowd – their crowd.
Chrissy and other vacuous sheep will always cite external sources because they believe what they’re told to believe, instead of their own lying eyes.
Sheep. Baaa… Baaa…
Anyone that tells you to not listen to experts, data, and studies has an agenda and is relying on ignorance to gain supporters for their ‘I thunk it so it mus be troo’ misinformation and lies. Because, of course, he doesn’t have data, facts or real truth behind his ideas or opinions. He only has bigoty, hate and distrust.
Sums up the modern conservatives well, ignore facts, data and science and shame the educated as woke so their base remains ignorant and gullible.
But you be you.
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No, I’m suggesting that people think for themselves.
Otherwise, if they are a sheep like you, they’d be taken in by the FBI’s claim last year that crime had fallen. That’s just the kind of “authoritative credible source” you adore, isn’t it?
This week the FBI fessed up and admitted that crime had in fact increased considerably last year.
So you just keep believing what you’re told to believe. And don’t you dare question what your betters tell you.
Sucker.
I am sheep for listening to experts who provide detailed data and analysis for how they come to the conclusions? When all Austin has is a handful of antidotal examples that feed his personal bias. LOL, I will go with the experts.
To ignore them as Austin suggests is willful ignorance. Don’t be like Austin.
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Chrissy is such a sheep that he will believe his “experts” when they tell him crime fell in 2023, and will also then believe them when they tell him that crime increased in 2023.
He is exactly the sort of gullible, malleable “useful idiot” that omnipotent states prefer.
– Don’t be like him. Think for yourself.
Do you understand the word ILLEGAL!!
So my ancestors who did not have written permission from the native Americans to settle in this Country from England were Illegals.
And my ancestors, the first Britons, the Brythonic Celts, did not give permission to the Romans, The Saxons, the Angles, The Jutes, the Danes, the Huns, or the Normans.
But they came to our island anyway and we were marginalised in Wales, Cornwall, and Cumbria.
That’s what happens when there are no immigration controls.
You lose your country.
We have immigration controls. We don’t have open borders. We ‘catch and deport back the majority of illegal crossers. It would be more effective if we invested in improving the controls at our border, but Conservatives decided they liked the campaign issue of the border so voted down the most comprehensive immigration bill written in decades.
Just more lies from Austin. Yawn.
But you be you.
SHOW ME WHERE I LIED.
Lying by implication. It is very clear what you are implying in your comment.
But you be you. A very sneaky liar. LOL
Hilarious!
You accuse me of lying but you can’t back it up.
You’re a really pathetic little liar, aren’t you? I could sue you for character defamation…
A single homicide committed by someone in the country illegally is too many.
I’ll explain further because I’m sure your self-righteousness will compel you to respond: if the perpetrator wasn’t here in the first place, an American would still be alive.
But you be you.
At least you admit it isn’t a crime wave like Trump and Austin lies.
Funny how conservatives are perfectly ok with murder of thousands when the topic is gun control.
Conservatives are never “OK” with murder of “thousands.” But to liberals, it must seem that way. That is because we are for real solutions that will work. Most proposals wouldn’t solve the problem, with 300 million guns in the US, do you propose confiscating the guns? Do you propose rewriting the 2nd amendment? Most deaths by far are by handguns and a good portion of those are actually suicide. The focus should be on mental health, intervention, better licensing. But the big bogey man has been “assault rifles”, which many people I know believe those are fully automatic machine guns, which they are not. They are called military grade weapons. No serious military in the world uses AR15’s. They are merely a .22 calibre rifle fabricated to LOOK like a machine gun. The assault weapon ban from 1994-2004 had mixed, inconclusive results. One person described it as a ban on “scary-looking’ guns. I do believe in disallowing any modification that would make that weapon more lethal: bump stocks, high capacity magazines. Wanting to ban AR15s, which hasn’t been shown to accomplish much, is mostly a political ploy by the left. As is claiming conservations are “OK” with murder. That is really a bad comment that undermines your credibility.
I firmly agree that gun control laws need to involve people who actually know guns but so far, the only answer the NRA gun crowd seems to want to make is more guns. So, until the NRA and those that support their political agenda (I volunteer for NRA safety events at my local gun glub every year) comes to the table with advice other than more guns they have the blood of thousands on their hands.
“JP” said nothing of the sort – no such thing.
Stop putting words into other people’s mouths.
You’re pathetic.
I don’t admit to anything in my comment other than the fact that the death of a single American at the hands of someone in the country illegally is a problem that could have been avoided.
And what is funny is how you – A). Assume I am a conservative because I don’t agree with your ridiculous position, and B). You immediately change the topic to gun control, which no one was talking about.
It is obvious that you have no real opinion other than what you hear in whatever echo chamber you reside in. Let me guess, as soon as Biden was shown the door you happily replaced his sign in your front yard with Kamala’s, without ever giving one thought about how your ability to choose a replacement was disregarded. I mean she was able to assume the war chest so it was a no-brainer, right?
Frankly, you are what is wrong with the country today. To you politics is a sport and you have to wave the flag of your team like a good little fan.
There was a time that I voted for a candidate based on their policies. Unfortunately that time has passed. We now live in a world of deciding between the lesser evils. Congratulations.
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Well said, JP.
Very well said.
Frankly, you are what wrong with this country. You accept the word of fear monger politicians and ignore actual studies using data analysis and facts. You claim justification for villainizing immigrants because of a single death yet don’t hold any other source of death to the same standard. Hypotactically is how I see you.
But you be you.
Actually Chris, it is well meaning idiots like you who have destroyed Great Britain – and will also destroy this country if you have your way.
Which is why you must be stopped.
WGHPFOX8 is woke.
Here you go, dummy. Once again, a quick google search will satisfy your doubtfulness if you are willing to pull the blinders off. According to ICE statistics published in ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations Report, in the Fiscal Year 2018 there were 2,028 total offenses for homicide committed by aliens in the U.S. In 2019 they reported 1,923 total offenses for homicide by aliens.
Don’t know about you, but 2000 seems a little bit larger than a handful to me. If you want case by case specific examples, you can go here and read accounts and watch sad videos. These are not all encompassing by any means, but merely the ones the site was able to locate and confirm with the resources available to them.
https://www.fairus.org/issue/examples-serious-crimes-illegal-aliens
We haven’t even touched on the illegal sex trafficking trade which is largely run by and victimizes illegals and leads to an entire other set of crimes from rape, kidnapping, slavery, etc all the way down to petty drug crimes. Get your head out of your butt man.
You are quoting a figure that represents ALL immigrants. Are you pitching the idea that we should toss out all immigrants from the US? But still let’s look at the numbers:
2000 out of how many millions of immigrants in the US (note the report you quote isn’t limited to illegal immigrants…that figure includes all immigrants)? I will give you a hint: 44.8 million. Or one in 22,400 immigrants were convicted of a homicide. Americans committed at total ~15,000 homicides during the same period. That is 290 million citizens or one homicide per 19k people.
Simple math sure but shows that US born citizens are more likely to commit a homicide than an immigrant. The study in Texas showed that illegal immigrants are 3x less likely to commit violent crime than a US citizen or legal immigrants. Makes sense that illegals would want to keep their heads down and avoid any engagement with law enforcement.
I understand if simple math is difficult for you so I can type slower for you if that helps.
But you be you.
No. No, sir. You said there were only a handful of examples of illegals committing crime. I have you a gigantic sample just for homicides. 2k out of about 16k total homicides in the US were done by immigrants. It’s true the proportions of illegal vs legal are not known, but I would bet that the majority are illegal. With all the hoops a legal immigrant has to jump through to get here, they are much less likely to throw that away. Illegals have no skin in the game and would be much more likely to offend.
I’ve went over your Texas study with you ad nauseum in the past. It’s highly flawed. And only addresses conviction rates, cont commission rates. And there is no measure of crime where the suspects are not known, which is the vast majority of all crime. You hang your hat on half truths and skewed data. I told you last time that you are a pseudo intellectual at best, relying on studies without understanding them or their data sources.
You wanted numbers showing crimes committed by immigrants. The numbers I found are the closest thing you can find to actual numbers. The simple truth is that you will not be swayed even if you yourself were the victim of a crime. Just like you question Trump’s morality constantly but never question or concern yourself with Old Joe’s. You called Trump a liar endlessly while patting old Plagiarist Joe on the back and saying it was funny. You secretly breathed a sigh of relief when his own party torpedoed him so you wouldn’t have to keep up the charade.
They are here legally so i will ask you again….do you want to get rid of all immigrants from the US?
Noted, you are “BETTING”…..lol. I am betting your bias is leading you to your ill-informed opinion given the recent Texas study that did track the immigration status of criminals found that illegal immigrants were 3x LESS likely to commit violent crime (or any crime for that matter) than natural born citizens.
I have a harder time finding anything Trump says that is not either an exaggeration or a blatant lie. I can’t think of any lies told by any past president that has:
– led people to storm the capitol in a pathetic attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power
– led people to threaten the lives of poll workers and election officials,
– led people to not take the vaccines that HE PUSHED through a rushed approval process
– led people to believe their state government has abandoned them during one of its deadliest disasters
– led people to rush to the US southern border armed to defend a mob of immigrants that wasn’t there (that one did make me laugh)
– led people to lose faith in the US democracy (ie election process) without a shred of valid evidence or facts
…..and worst of all his lies are designed to make people believe that America is a failed state with a failed economy when we still have on the strongest economies in the world with the greatest opportunity for freedom and success.
But you can go ahead and follow your leader that hates America because be lost a free and fair election all you want. It’s still a free country regardless of what all the drama queens on the conservative side say.
You be you.
Chris will not accept reality even when confronted with it.
” All Leftists have a reality perception problem”.
I’m just going to go talk to a lamp. I’ll make more headway. The Texas study is worthless and only addresses convictions, not offender rates. Two wildly different data sets. They skew their own results and imply that conviction rates and offending rates are linked. They are not.
I think you are the lamp here Don given your failure to address the analysis I made of the data YOU shared. How about you find even one study that contradicts all the other studies that show immigrants, and especially illegal immigrants commit crime at a lower rate than natural born citizens. As so far the only justification for your opinion on illegal immigrants and the mystical crime wave is ‘I thunk it so it mus be troo’ logic so many conservatives use when real analysis and studies contradict your personal bias.
The Texas analysis used arrest data, not convictions by the way. So try another excuse to debunk one the most comprehensive studies taken in the one state most impacted by immigration. For your reference Mr Lamp Post:
https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/undocumented-immigrant-offending-rate-lower-us-born-citizen-rate
There are no sound studies. The Texas report is the only one I am aware of. No state tracks immigration arrest data except Texas. I think you’re right, it was arrest data, not convictions, but if I recall, there were some caveats they put on that data set, like excluding certain types of crime. Regardless, my argument is still the same and irrefutable. Arrest rates are not the same as offender rates. Two different and unrelated data sets. The study tries to make the jump from arrest rates to rates of offending and you hopped right on board just like they wanted you to.
Let’s say there were 100 murders. Let’s also say 50 of them go unsolved, so you’ve already lost half of your potential data points. Even if all 50 of the solved murders were done by US citizens, you cannot jump to the conclusion that the other 50 were also US citizen offenders. It’s a false study that jumps to the conclusion they wanted you to see, which you did.
What you’re asking for does not exist. You want a magical data set tracking people who by the nature of their lives don’t get tracked. Police agencies do not track immigration status, do not report it, and don’t really care about it. So there is no data to refer to other than the flawed Texas info that tried to make that leap of faith that arrest rates in any way correlate to offender rates.
And just like that, Chris is gone….
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-18-433
Illegal aliens account for 21% of the population of federal prisons as of 2016 according to the GAO. It’s obvious they commit crimes at a proportionately high rate. The very fact that they enter the country illegally is a crime in itself and it’s a fact that if they were not here, so called prison overcrowding would be a moot point.
Right, we tend to lock up illegals we capture versus the Trump lie that democrats have open borders and just ‘let walk right in’. But let’s look at the numbers again:
In 2018, the incarceration rate for illegal immigrants in the United States was 877 per 100,000, which is 41% lower than the rate for native-born Americans. In general, immigrants are less likely to be incarcerated than people born in the U.S. Let’s toss out the Americans since they seem to be the bigger problem using your logic.
I’d be willing to bet, that if one of YOUR family members was brutally raped and/or murdered, by someone who should never have even been allowed into this country, you’d see things quite differently. But, you be you.
Nope. Migrant labor from South America is a big part of the NC agriculture economy, and I am glad to have them here in the Great State of NC for without them, we would not be as economically strong as we are today.
Yes, taking the jobs of Americans. Great point, Chris.
Funny how crops rotted in the field when Florida ran off their immigrant labor. Where were all the people lining up for those low paying jobs?
Supply and demand will take care of that if the government would stay out of the way. Yes, food will cost more, but keeping food prices down with government subsidies, aka my tax dollars, is really robbing Peter to pay Paul. It’s also disingenuous to say, “just look the other way so I can get cheap corn from slave labor.” If you want illegals here and working, then you should be arguing for fair pay for them as well. And if you want fair pay, then American workers would do the work. You can’t have it both ways dude. Or are you ok with slave wages for cheap veggies? Seems like you are. Hypocrite.
The people I know who were raped and brutalized were attacked by natural born citizens of the United States.
And every time a member of my family has been the victim of crime, the perpetrator has been black.
[ Can’t say African-American because my father was mugged in Leeds, England by two young black males ]
Are you suggesting we should draw inferences from anecdotal evidence?
The exact opposite. You should never draw inferences from single anecdotal evidence. That seems to be your jam with all this immigration fear mongering you push on the regular even though all real analysis say that natural born citizens are far more likely to commit crime than an immigrant and especially an illegal immigrant.
But I am glad you agree anecdotal examples are worthless in making policy. Now prenent one study of any kind that shows the crime way you whine about from illegal immigration has any truth to it other than “I thunk it so it mus be troo” story line. Bet you can’t.
Then why did you say that those you know who were raped were victims of natural born US Citizens?
I’ll say this. Fox 8 used to be fair and balanced. Not anymore. Neil and Katy are as liberal as they come. One other girl is nothing but a race baiter reporter. Can’t trust anything local anymore.
WGHP Fox 8 is regime media pure and simple. They have provided propaganda for the kleptocrats who rule us shamelessly for at least the last 5 years. It was most obvious during the Plandemic reign of witches, and they got taxpayer money to do it. Beyond Van Denton’s weather, you should believe nothing you hear on Fox 8.
Van Denton is the best local TV meteorologist, and he’s the only reason I tune in to that channel.
I bumped into Bob Buckley once at the Total Wine on Battleground Avenue, and congratulated him for being the only conservative at the station. He replied that he wasn’t the only one, but that there weren’t many…
And their incessant shilling for the “vaccines” was nauseating. They were lining their own pockets while peddling an unproven toxic cocktail of chemicals.
WGHP can be relied upon to tell you half the story. With a Leftist spin.
We can disagree about covid and vaccines. If you were young and healthy, your risk of death was almost zero. But I am older, with some slight health issues. The vaccine was the best option and my doctor recommended it. Like most flu vaccines, who knows how effective it is and certainly Fauci oversold (lied) about its effectiveness. As for WGHP, are you claiming they were lining their pockets by running covid and vaccine stories? How so? Was the govt or pharma paying the station? No. they were doing their best to carry a story without being partisan, in my opinion. At the time, nobody really knew how covid would play out.
They were financially incentivized to promote the Clot Shot.
After billions have received the shot and no mass deaths, Austin still spreads this lie to feed the ignorant and foolish. What a bore. If the vaccine is so dangerous, where are all the dead, injured and sick from the billions of shots delivered across the globe? Time to let this lie die.
But you be you.
I have several customers who have been grievously harmed by the “vaccine” and/or its boosters, including a healthy happy 54 year old woman who suffered a stroke just days after her first booster (3rd jab) and is now a pitiful invalid.
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And – obviously – the heart attacks, strokes, auto-immune diseases, and aggressive “turbo cancers” have nothing to do with the “vaccine”… according to the same physicians and drug pushers who forced it on you.
Mandy Rice-Davies Applies.
Oh, and kidney disease. Lots of kidney disease among those who received the mRNA type “vaccines” (Pfizer & Moderna in the US).
I put on a pair or orange socks and had a terrible pimple pop up once when I was a teenager. Doesn’t mean wearing orange socks gives you pimples.
Or an even better example, my father had a stroke during the early phase of covid but hasn’t had one since he received his covid vaccine and multiple boosters. Using your antidotal logic, that means the vaccine cures people of strokes.
If your flawed theory was true, analysis would show massive spike in strokes year of year in the US given the billions of covid vaccine shots that have been administered in such a short period of time. Didn’t happen.
In the United States, stroke is a leading cause of death and disability so it goes without saying that people will statistically have strokes within a state timeframe of any event you can dream up. Including receiving a shot.
Because of the massive number of people who received the covid vaccine, it is not complicated to statistically monitor the population for any spikes in specific side effects…which as done. Nope. The only exception that you are likely basing your misinformation on is the very rare clotting disorder called thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS), —an updated safety analysis showed that, as of March 18, out of more than 18 million people who got J&J, 60 cases of TTS were reported and nine people died. Let me bet your client didn’t have TTS and wasn’t one of those 60 people?
You continue to attempt to use antidotal evidence for judging things like medical advice and mystical crime waves. Only a fool believes antidotal evidence over large-scale statistical data. Willful ignorance is the assuming science is wrong, and your limited view of the problem is correct.
If you fear being one of the 60 out of millions. Fine, that is your choice. But don’t claim that receiving the vaccine causes clots and disability. Statically, your odds of dying covid are greater from not having the shot than having the shot.
But you be you. I am just here to offer the more logical point of view versus your fear mongering point of view.
Ahh yes, antidotal (sic) evidence…
You really shouldn’t make it so easy for me, you imbecile.
LOL!
In addition to Dan Post’s points, the Federal govt paid $1.5 billion to media outlets to uniformly present officialdom’s lies about the illness and the “vax” (which was not a vaccine by the definition that had prevailed 200 years). CDC was involved in dispensing much of it. There were 3 different tranches, one of them initially secret. So yes, WGHP lined their pockets!
The pharmaceutical industry has bought and paid for most media outlets who are loathe to question anything they do. The myriad of ads for extremely expensive drugs always recite a litany of possible side effects, most more unpleasant than the disease the drug is purported to treat.
The one exception are the ads for the covid vaccine, primarily Pfizer’s. They never mention even one of the 1290 adverse events they found in their somewhat limited testing. It’s no surprise they pressed for keeping those results sealed for 75 years!
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PS
I must admit that Ever Elegant Emily is rather good, too.
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I like the sports. Friday night high school football roundup is a winner.
Did Laken get a fair trial? No, she was just executed by a criminal, without having done anything wrong. Give her murderer a fair trial this week, hear his appeals next week, and hang him before the end of the month!
We could only hope for that, but he will convicted, given life in prison and the taxpayer will keep him up for 50 years, 3 meals a day, medical and dental attention, exercise to keep him healthy, probably access to a degree, trade and will be released in 20 years because liberals will think he was excessively punished. Laken was trying to get her degree to better herself, one day get married, have a family but all of that is gone due to the Harris Biden policies on keeping Americans safe. Hey Chris, what if that happened to your family? How would you feel? Its not a Republican Democrat thing, It’s a Safety thing. Who will make us safer?
—- And the irony is that in his own country (Venezuela), they would just have taken him out back and shot him.
He would just be another one of “the disappeared”.
Yet you wonder why people from Venezuela has fled that country in droves?
Definitely not because of massive poverty caused by the government….oh wait.
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-18-433
Illegal aliens account for 21% of the population of federal prisons as of 2016 according to the GAO. It’s obvious they commit crimes at a proportionately high rate. The very fact that they enter the country illegally is a crime in itself and it’s a fact that if they were not here, so called prison overcrowding would be a moot point.
Nope. More misinformation about immigration.
IMMIGRANTS account for 21% of the population of federal prisons……That means legal and illegal. Go back and reread your source. But good for you for trying to use data in your comment. Your mistake is you exposed yourself as thinking of all immigrants negatively. Just saying.
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And lastly, despite WGHP FOX8 unceasingly promoting Hispanic Heritage Month, they have still failed to celebrate Jose Antonio Iberra. Or even mention him.
Strange that, innit… ?
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And just now (2024/10/15 18:21) Katie Nordeen authoritatively informed us that ” although increased government spending wasn’t the cause of inflation, it did make it worse”.
Well who can argue with the intellectual giants who compose this drivel, that poor Katie must spout?
WGHP believes that the American Rescue Plan and the Inflation Reduction Act did NOT cause inflation…
Or at least that’s what they’re selling you. And half the viewers will buy it.
Apparently Chris either lives in a bubble or is just another troll who always disagrees with actual facts. Nationwide there are numerous crimes committed daily by illegals, many which are violent. And guess what Chris ten million illegal acts is a crime wave because every single illegal broke the law by entering the country illegally. Get your facts straight.
Chris is one of those guys who likes to posture and parade as morally and intellectually superior.
He is neither.