When one talks about racism and the International Civil Rights Center & Museum in Greensboro, one should keep the following Associated Press articles in mind.
The articles involve a failed and a successful tour of the ICRCM by two well-known politicians. The failed attempt resulted from a denied appointment; the successful attempt was an unscheduled, walk-in off the street visit.
In 2016, Donald Trump’s campaign contacted and asked if the ICRCM could be closed for 5 hours so that he and his entourage could tour the facilities. His request was denied for the reasons given below:
“A North Carolina civil rights organization denied Donald Trump’s request to visit its museum, saying the Trump campaign’s demands were “disrespectful.”
“We did not honor the request of the Donald Trump team because we thought … their approach was disrespectful,” Earl Jones, co-founder of the International Civil Rights Center and Museum said, according to WFMY News.
According to the news report, the Trump campaign was aggressive and rude to the staff of the museum in making its request to visit last week. Jones said that the Republican nominee wanted the museum to be closed for at least five hours to accommodate him.
The main reason the museum denied the request, Jones said, is because it doesn’t offer any special treatment to anyone. But he also didn’t think the request was sincere.
“The approach, the type of disrespect, pretty much a demand and bullying us to use the museum in their manner and their way in their time, it was inappropriate, and I think it’s probably reflective of the type of insensitivity of civil rights and human rights that’s reflective from Trump over the years,” said Jones.
But Jones added that if Hillary Clinton were to make the same request, she would also be denied. Both Trump and Clinton are welcome to visit the museum, but no special arrangements will be provided.
“We have equal treatment for everyone coming to the museum and we welcome everyone to the museum, but we are not going to allow the museum to be used for political gain,” said Jones.”
The following article describes what happened when Camilla Harris made an unscheduled, walk-in off the street-type visit to the ICRCM in April 2021:
Vice President Kamala Harris sits at the lunch counter as she visits the International Civil Rights Center and Museum, Monday, April 19, 2021, in Greensboro, N.C. With Harris are LaTonya Wiley, museum tour guide, left, Melvin Skip Alston-Guilford County Board of Commissioners, John Swain, Museum director and Rev. Anthony Spearman, right. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster) – Photo omitted intentionally but is available on the internet
Vice President Kamala Harris took a detour while visiting North Carolina on Monday to sit at the same lunch counter where four Black college students known as the Greensboro Four conducted a peaceful sit-in 61 years ago that became a defining moment in the civil rights movement.
Harris, who was in North Carolina to plug President Joe Biden’s $2.3 trillion infrastructure plan, made the unscheduled visit to the International Civil Rights Center & Museum in Greensboro.
Funded by our tax dollars, racism and hypocrisy are both still thriving at the ICRCM in Greensboro.
Buddy K.
I fail to see the double standard you mention (ie racism). Kamala did a walk-in unscheduled visit which they said they would have supported for Trump or the Clinton? Personally, I think they missed an opportunity for national free advertising by having Trump visit the museum. Heck, knowing Trump he would have said something insensitive that would have made liberal media giggle and run multiple stories for a few days.
Missed opportunity for sure but I fail to see the racism or double standard.
Do you really think that Kamala walked in unscheduled? And if she somehow did just happen to stop by, do you think you and I could have walked into the museum with her? Absolutely not dude. Get real. The museum was closed down for her, which is exactly what they said they would NOT do for Trump.
I recall that she advised that she wanted to visit if her scheduled allowed. So she showed because she could. The visit was not on her formal schedule. They gave her a private tour…but given the size of her security team and the press core, it looked about the same size as a standard group tour of the downstair museum. I am sure while she was on site they kept others out. But in no way did they shut down the property for 5 hours as requested by the Trump team.
So, I don’t see a double standard. I just see a missed opportunity because, let’s be honest, Trump would have drawn a far larger crowd than the VP even if he showed up unannounced.
The ICRCM was not only shutdown, but the surrounding streets would also have been closed to traffic for whatever time she was there. She controlled the amount of time spent there, not the ICRCM.
President Bush, Sr. visited the facility where I worked in California and I can assure you that Kamala Harris did not just walk in and get a simple, private tour, as you have implied. Our facility was totally locked down. Snipers on the roof. Secret Service in the hallways. No one allowed in the room after he entered. No one allowed to leave the room until after he left. Even the elevators were de-activated. FN P90 submachine guns were in abundance.
While I have your attention, in an earlier post you claimed that our allies are being shipped military weapons that are basically obsolete for our own use. Hopefully you have since learned that was a false statement as Ukraine, for example, is in desperate need of M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) and at least (2) Patriot Air Defense Systems. It is true that both systems have been around for decades, but having worked for a defense contractor, I can assure you that they are constantly being upgraded with the latest technological capabilities. Generally, monies allocated by Congress in support of our Allies goes directly to U.S. Defense Contractors who manufacture product according to the contract. It can be a lengthy process before any end-items actually get shipped to the country in need as many military weapons are manufactured and assembled by hand.
Thanks, Buddy.
Chrissy is an habitual blowhard here and just fabricates fantasies to fit his narrative.
He has no commitment to truth.
He just wants to convince himself that he “won” an argument because he’s profoundly insecure. It makes him feel better about himself.
Kamala it was shut down just for the time she visited. Maybe 45 min max? Yet Trump wanted it shut down for the majority of the day in case he stopped by. Plus his people made other demands apparently. I don’t the similarity and bias between the two very different requests. Seems people reading into their actions something that isn’t there.
I only stated that a good portion of early aid was in the form of munitions that were near their scheduled time to be replaced as many munitions have a limited shelf life. Therefore, the cost of those munitions included a savings to the US in avoiding the cost to dispose of those munitions. There is debate currently about sending munitions that have passed their expiration date to Ukraine but have not follow-up to see if we have sent such munitions yet. This of course also gets around the long lead time for turning aid into delivery of munitions.
She might have been physically in there for 45 minutes, but like Buddy said, high level government officials don’t just walk into unsecure places. The secret service has to lock the place down well in advance. That includes making sure there are no unscreened workers inside, no guests unless they have been screened and are there for PR purposes, no suspicious items inside, etc. Heck, if you have ever tried to get around Greensboro when the President or VP are just driving through town, you know it is next to impossible. They lock down every inch of their driving route from airport to destination. You will never be driving down the road and look over and see Kamala waiving as she cruises past you in her missile proof limo on an unsecured road. If anything, the Trump team was just being more open and honest about the amount of time the Secret Service would need to secure the facility before and while the dignitary was visiting.
Go back and read the Rhino article when she visited. They did the sweep of the area around 4pm (near the end of the day), they even let in people from the street to the main lobby since she used the side entrance. I suspect the entire visit form advance security to her leaving was less than an hour. (I believe the Rhino describe her tour as a whirlwind tour)…
Certainly, doesn’t sound like the museum was shut down for the day as Trump requested.
But you be you.
And I suspect you are wrong.
Skip and Jones did not want any “publicity” about Trump going to the museum, pure and simple. And the five hours issue? Are you sure it was 5 hours, and not less than that?
The whole issue was Skip and Jones wanted to barr Trump from a national news event. so in my eyes, it was all political.
Chris. . . make sure you get your front row seats since the VP of gibberish is coming back to GBO. . .and wonder if she wants to go to Woolworth one last time?
https://abc11.com/post/vp-kamala-harris-visit-greensboro-week-campaign-biden/15042109/
That’s because there is no double standard. People (son) just like to start s**t. No special treatment was given to Harris.
Were you personally there and know this to be 100% factual? If not, then you can’t say that. Fact is, people who were there constantly remarked about how Skippy and Early gushed all over Camel. How they refused entrance to anyone not them or her staff. How they even had people out front preventing people from even walking too close to the building. Countless people were there that day working, shopping, etc. so I highly doubt you know what you are saying. Harris absolutely got special treatment! Facts: Skippy and Early pointedly said they didn’t want 2 specific white people, saying they didn’t want them there at a PUBLIC museum. Refusing entrance! Racist. Pure and simple. They are racist. It couldn’t be any clearer.
The newspaper article and the Rhino times article at the time both mentioned people being allowed into the lobby. There are pictures of people and press waving as she left by the side door. Can’t believe she would attract near the crowd that Trump would.
And you are shocked by this why?
I’m confused. Did Harris ask that the museum be closed for hours prior to her visit? But I do agree with your comment on the proliferation of racism but I feel its direction has shifted toward the Caucasian community.
No surprises in this story. What would you expect?
Thank you Buddy K. I’ve experienced much the same and have been told “how do you like it?”. Overt examples are rampant in our country, not just in Greensboro. Sadly, people have been raised from a very young age to demand not equality but rather “separate rights “. As usual, the squeaky wheel gets the oil. It won’t surprise me if the Woolworth building does receive some financial support and National recognition, not because of its significance but because of the bullying by local and National groups dedicated to demanding more, not equal.
No question Skip Alston might be the biggest Racist in this Country! No pity on the fools that continue to elect him as he bilks one and all out of their taxpayer money to support his fiefdom! The Civil Rights Museum and the Event taken place here is nothing more than another significant event that has taken place in Greensboro and Guilford County. It would be in the best interest of the taxpaying public and all those interested in the history of this area to combine the Guilford Battleground Site, the Greensboro Historical Museum, and the Civil Rights Museum in to one educational, memorial, and respected attraction!
Jim Donaldson
None of the Conservative people I know are surprised, nor have they wasted their time going there. The question is why is the Guilford County School System still making kids go there and funding it? I am told by reliable people I know that it is one hundred percent biased toward the leftist victim agenda of blacks, which is historically inaccurate, but why let the facts in the way of a good narrative.
GCS is not funding it. The taxpayers are. Without the kids there would be NO paying visitors.
I visited the museum last year and found it to be a mixed bag. Much of it was presented factually and fairly and was a good reminder of how things were when we were separate but “equal.” That said, some of those who told our history had serious attitude issues. Their goal wasn’t simply to teach or inform but also to condemn their light-skinned visitors.
It’s important that we acknowledge the past and the part that some of us older ones may have played in it. It’s also important that we not repeat the mistakes of our past to punish those who don’t “look just like us.” None of us had ANY control over what color our skin would be. For anyone to have enmity against another on the basis of skin color is not just profoundly stupid, but is also evil.
By all means, don’t go. You might learn something if you did and then you couldn’t buy into the false narrative of the white washing of America’s history of Racism.
Chris you’re formally invited to our next meeting on Saturday night. Please come and let some of my friends educate you about racism, maybe you will learn something
There’s a meeting on Saturday nights? I generally agree with your comments Rebel, so can I come?
Er, unless it’s a KKK meeting. That’s not my cup of tea.
Sorry Austin and I’m sure this will deflate Chris’s bubble but no the KKK doesn’t fit into the equation. Just a normal group of good ole rednecks shooting pool, doing a little target practice, drinking a few or more cold ones ( little moonshine) on occasion talking hunting, fishing, politics, world affairs and women of course
I’ll bring beer.
A Klan meeting? I will pass.
Now Chris, where did you see anyone say Klan meeting
LMAO, I got the idea from the same place Austin did. LAMO I will let you figure that out.
By all means Chris, don’t go you may learn something that would educate you on your false narrative about what you don’t know but you be you
Na, the KKK is a part of history I have little interest in but thank you for the offer.
It’s not even up for debate. Skip away with the money Alston and Earl Jones are completely racist. It’s awful funny he mentions Trump and Hillary and of course they are white. But yet he let a black woman come in unannounced and closed it down for her. I see the double standard absolutely! Chris does not. We all know it from his crap he writes. Skip and Earl have gotten to most of the leaders in our city and turn them racist. Or either they have something really bad on a lot of people that they don’t want to come to light. Greensboro has gone to hell straight and simple. They close down the streets now for black people to sell their items but don’t do it for white people. Or any other race actually. All of our races pay the taxes in this town. Not just black people. Greensboro is nothing but hypocrites. Especially when you add Skippy, Earl and Nancy in to the mix. And it’s a filthy town that they allow to be filthy. Beggars on every single corner. Standing in the streets. I have heard countless visitors to our town said they would never come back again because it’s so disgustingly dirty. And it is. Greensboro used to be awesome. We all used to be proud of our town and now we all are disgusted by it. Our leaders have turned it into a travesty. That museum is a travesty and needs to be shut down. Our leaders need to be voted away and new ones put in their place. We need to get the glory Greensboro used to be back in action. Nothing they say and nothing they do will change the fact they have turned our City into a joke now.
Again Chris I repeat this I never mentioned the KKK sorry to burst your bubble. You be you